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dr_messo
31-03-2002, 05:47 PM
F S A 17 year old school student Saudi male patient admitted to the hospital through E.R 5 days ago complaining of 4 days history of right iliac pain & swelling also fever some times .


History of Presnting Illness :

Abdominal pain :
The patient was well 5 days prior to admission but after break fast start to have vomiting then pain and swelling gradually .
· Right iliac fossa .
· Gradual onset .
· Continuous 4 days with the same rhythm .
· Not so sever ( 7/10 ) .
· Dull pain .
· Not radiating .
· Icreased with food intake .
· Relived by grugs .
· Associated with swelling & anorexia & vommiting after pain & fever some times for about half an hour duration .



Swelling :
· gradual
· 4 days
· ovale
· painful
· لا icreasing or decreasing in size .



Vomiting:
· just at 1st day after pain .
· 3 times with about 1 hour inbetween each attack .
· لا projectile .
· about 1\2 cup .
· its color is close to color of food wich he takes .


** no H/O diarrhea constipation or change in bowel habits , heart burn , odynophagia , bleeding , hematemesis jaundice , melena or hematechezia .




Past medical history :

· No history of previous hospital admission , D.M , HTN , T.B , rheumatic fever , surgery , or ischemic heart disease .


Medication :
· No H/O chronic medications .


Allergies :
· No H/O drug , food , animal or occupational allergy .

Social history :
· Single , school student , grade 8 .
· Living with his family in owened building .
· No H/O smoking, alcohol or drug abusing .

Family history :
· No family history of HTN , DM , C.V.A , ischemic heart disease , asthma , malignancy or death of young relatives .



Review of systems :

· NO SIGNIFICANT SYMPTOMS .

On examination:

· The patient was conscious , cooperative , oriented to time, person & place .
· Look well , mormal body built , ling comfortably on bed .
· Not jaundice , cyanosed .
· Afebrile .

· Vitals :

o P.R = 85 /min . regular , normal volume , no femoral delay , collapsing pulse ,syncronus also blood vessel wall was لا palpable .
o R.R = 16/ min .
o B.P = 110 / 70 mmHg .
o Temp. = 36.9 C .

· Head :
o Eyes were normal no pallor or jaundice .
o Tounge was normal , no central cyanosis or abnormal coloration .
o Lips were also normal color , no perephral cyanosis .

· Neck :

o No lymph node enlagment , normal J.V.P , normal thyroid , normal carotid , trachea was لا displaced .

· Hands :
o No clubbing , leuconychia , koilonychias , splinter hemorrhage , palmar erythema , tremor , waisting , swilling or deformity .







· G.I.T :

o Swelling in the right iliac fossa
· This swelling is :
· Single
· Ovale
· About 4-5 cm
· No discoloration
· Smooth surface
· Tenderness
· Ill defined edge
· Not pulsatile
· Little hot
· Not flactuant
· Skin over it can move freely


o No, promenant veins , hernia scar , scrach mark , hair distribution , pigmentation , rigidity , organomegaly or ascitis .
o Normal liver span , spleen was لا palpable .
o No other significant ( remarkable )findings .


Investegations :

· CBC shows elevated WBCs ( 13,000 )
· Rised serum amylase .
· ULTRASOUND shows enlarged appendix .




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waiting for ur openions


& quistions


thx all

الجمره الظريفه
31-03-2002, 07:36 PM
thank you
your history is comprehesive
but we need more focused GI tract review
course seems to start with more acute symptoms than u had described
why this young man didnt seek medical advice
initially rather than waiting for 4-5 days for this mass to develop
how is his school performance? did he attend school in the previous few days?
what actually brought him to hospital?
how is his appetite?
how high is the serum amylase?
liver function tests?
ultrasound showing appendicular mass!!!
any abdominal x-rays, erect and supine
any obstructive symptoms, vomiting (absolute constipation)
any malodourous breath "halitosis"
give me you differential diagnosis?
معليش بشد عليك شوي عشان تتعلم و لا انا بس جايه هنا ضيفه;)

يعسوب
31-03-2002, 11:22 PM
good history

but also i want to know more about
GIT symptoms
change in the bowel habits
what about the stool??
what about the urinary symptoms??
we want more details about the cbc
and the other investigations e.g
urine analysis... stool analysis.. endoscopy


ARE YOU SURE THAT THE PATIENT IS NOT ANEMIC ??

DID YOU LOOK CAREFULLY TO HIS HAND IN COMPARISON TO YOUR HAND??

يعطيك الف عافية وتقديمك جيد جدا :):):)

تحياتي

يعسوب
31-03-2002, 11:29 PM
كما ن نبغى
YOUR DIFFERENTIAL DIAGNOSIS


بالنسبة ل MANAGMENT

نتكلم فيها سوى


في ملاحظة عندي بالنسبة ل PAIN عندنا مايحبوا نقسمها على عشرة ما ادري كيف عندكم بس الافضل تعطي انطباع على تاثير الالم على NORMAL LIFE STYLE
بمعنى
DOSE THE PAIN AWAKE THE PATIENT FROM SLEEP??
OR PREVENT HIM TO SLEEP OR GO TO THE WORK OR DO NORMAL JOPES??

وبكذا نعرف اذا الالم شديد متوسط او خفيف :)


THANX

dr_messo
01-04-2002, 04:53 PM
thx for u doctors about interacting with me


i will answer some of the Q but not all cuz i am in a hurry now


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why this young man didnt seek medical advice
initially rather than waiting for 4-5 days for this mass to develop
cuz the pain was tolerable but became so sever at day of admission


______

did he attend school in the previous few days


just 2 days

_____
what actually brought him to hospital?

sever pain & the swelling

________


how is his appetite?

i have already answered this Q in the history of presenting illness

as u can c here

Associated with swelling & anorexia & vommiting after pain & fever some times for about half an hour duration .

______

how high is the serum amylase
really i didnt remeber

_______


liver function tests?

i dont know :( :(

_____

ultrasound showing appendicular mass!!!

yes shows enlarged appendex

_____

any abdominal x-rays, erect and supine

i didnt look 4 them
______


but also i want to know more about
GIT symptoms
change in the bowel habits
what about the stool??

** no H/O diarrhea constipation or change in bowel habits , heart burn , odynophagia , bleeding , hematemesis jaundice , melena or hematechezia .

______


ARE YOU SURE THAT THE PATIENT IS NOT ANEMIC ??

DID YOU LOOK CAREFULLY TO HIS HAND IN COMPARISON TO YOUR HAND??

yes i am

i did


_____


the rest of ur Qs

i will try to answer them later on cuz i have to leave now



thx again

waseem

الجمره الظريفه
02-04-2002, 11:17 PM
تدرون عندي فكره
نحن نسعى لتأصيل الطب الاسلامي ترى هل نستطيع تعريب ما ذكرناه سابقاً
الدكتور وسيم
شكل الحاله
كتله التهابيه ناشئه عن التهاب الزائده
appendicular mass
و الله اعلم

dr_messo
03-04-2002, 02:05 AM
فعلا دكتوره الحاله كما قلتي